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Ballroom Blitz
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PostSubject: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2016 9:39 pm

Post your thoughts on the election, who you support, who you think will win, etc.

Obviously recognize that whatever you say will be judged and probably negatively.
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2016 7:50 am

trump is usas only hope
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2016 8:51 pm

Genuine Clinton supporter here.

Always been verging on socialism as my political view point goes, but IMHO Sanders would get nothing done in the colossal cluster fuck you people call a political system. He's effectively a single issue candidate with a pretty stark lack of experience/knowledge, and for all his promise of things I think America needs, I don't see him as delivering.

To be fucking honest though, I'd support him substantially more if it wasn't for the way his supporters behave. The Young Turks show on YouTube is genuinely twice as biased as Fox News, describing Sander's incident with the BLM activists as him "giving the stage to a young black woman" when she stole his mic as he protested, not to mention ripping into anything the clintons do in an attempt to garner support..... Yet Bernie did an hour long interview with them, quite happily. Urgh, it irks me :>
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2016 10:06 pm

The Young Turks is my favorite news show and I base a lot of my political feelings on their views, lel.

They're way better than FOX News, tbh.
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeFri Apr 15, 2016 2:11 am

Could care less who wins
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeFri Apr 15, 2016 4:48 am

Lmao, have heard much about some peoples love of that show :>

I'll explain my thoughts when I get home tonight :mmm:
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeFri Apr 15, 2016 7:45 pm

Bernie supporter through and through.

How can you support such a two faced politician APL?
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PostSubject: Re: US Presidential Election   US Presidential Election Icon_minitimeSat Apr 16, 2016 10:26 am

Note: All youtube links require the removal of a space, due to this ridiculous forum rule that you cannot post links without being registered for seven days.

Ballroom Blitz wrote:
The Young Turks is my favorite news show and I base a lot of my political feelings on their views, lel.

They're way better than FOX News, tbh.

Right, so I picked out my favorite recent TYT Video to show you their blatant bias, not that you'll back down. Call it a more extreme case if you really want to, but the fact of the matter is they do this in every video, you just don't see it because of your political affiliation.

Video in question: www .youtube .com /watch?v= JOhvamS1CDs

Now don't worry, you don't have to get far into the video to see his first case of utter, complete, bull shit. It's 20 seconds in. "When's the last time you saw a politician let a balck woman take the podium, speak, and heir their grievances. What a wonderful thing he did" - Referring to Sanders. Here's a video to the event in question;  youtu. be/7VbHUI1R3IA?t=59s

Let the black women take the podium? Are you serious? They got forcibly pushed aside by the women and openly tried to stop them interrupting his speech, numerous times. What's worse is Cenk makes this a race matter by claiming the only reason Bill Clinton didn't let them speak is because they're black. That's a blatant lie, designed to stir the masses against specific politicians instead of behind another. Clinton didn't let them have his podium because their point was retarded (more on that later) and because people had attended that event and hear him speak, no one else. If I barged onto the TYT set and began listing off reasons why their show is biased, worthless etc, would they air the footage and give me my say? No, no one does that.

Furthermore, he out-right lies about Clinton and the Black Lives matter protester that came to her fundraiser. Clinton gave her the mic, and allowed her to speak. She instead of asking a question began reciting a speech, talking for extended periods of time during an open floor. In fact, Clinton asked her both "Do you want to hear the facts, or do you just want to talk?" and "You know what? Nobody’s ever asked me before. You’re the first person to do that, and I’m happy to address it,". Hardly what Cenk would define as "promptly escorted from the building. Hillary Clinton would not take her question, answer her question..." Yes, the woman was removed, after not getting to the point or actually asking a question. That's what happens when you try to commandeer a fundraiser for your own purposes.

Next :>

"The line super-predators was used back in the day to demagogue against African-American kids [...] historical certainty [...] Hillary Clinton actually apologized for that line." This one's a good'un. Firstly, the tie to African-American children is hazy at best, often it was used to refer to them in times passed, but it was never defined as such and also used regarding white children. The association with the blacks simply came from the fact the majority of children who were placed into the actual definition were blacks. This is, again, Cenk tuning what is not a race issue, into one, since she very clearly defines them as a state of mind, not a race. While he doesn't lie shortly after by saying Clinton apologized for that line, he's placing it into such a context that makes it seem like she apologized for referring to black children as such, she did not, she simply apologized for the phrase.

Let's not even get into him berating Bill Clinton for actually combating and disagreeing with someone in an open debate forum, because I genuinely believe even you, as a TYT supporter, can see how retarded his point is there.

Then there's the casual misquoting of statistics regarding Marijuana usage, since he says Blacks and Whites smoke it in roughly the same quantities, but four times the amount of Blacks are arrested. He fails to mention that those arrests and incarcerations come mainly from the selling of weed, not the smoking of it. Because you know, anything to turn blacks away from someone with an 89% approval rating among African-Americans.

Again this is just one video, but I could do it to any of them. Cenk constantly berates the "establishment media" for being biased towards the candidate that they want to see in office... and then becomes hundreds of times more biased than any mainstream media outlet in the United States. The majority of the "mainstream media" are happy to report Hillary's failures or Sander's victories, while TYT continues to obscure any of her victories or his defeats. They spin everything, create worse Strawmans than Nephthys and downright lie to their viewer base simply because they know if they don't have guest speakers on who disagree with them they'll be fine.

I also love his argument that he quit from Mainstream media because he was told he was too anti-establishment. Care to point me to a single of his employees who in any way support Clinton's bid for the presidency?

Syndiciate wrote:
Bernie supporter through and through.

How can you support such a two faced politician APL?

All politicians are too faced, you're a fool if you believe otherwise. If you actually opened your eyes to her as a candidate instead of following the outrageously childish crowd of Sanders supporters who claim they'll vote for Trump if she gets the nomination, you might see her differently.

There's a reason she's got 2.5 million more votes than he does, and it's not that her supporters are uneducated, which is more than I can say for the Sanders campaign's.

Forgive me for not wanting a leader elected who couldn't actually get anything done. I may be borderline socialist, but I'm a pragmatist too, not a blind idealist.
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